Google Cheeky in China?

Today, Google made a cheeky move on its China site (Google.cn) in order to preserve its domain name and ability to operate in the PRC.

As you may recall, in January Google decided they no longer wanted to comply with censorship guidelines in China and started to redirect visitors to their China “content” sites to servers in HK, where there are no censorship restrictions. In that move, the search, photo and news sites became hosted on unfettered servers at google.com.hk, while others like music and maps kept their locations on mainland servers.

On the Official Google Blog, Chief Legal Officer David Drummond was rather frank about their recent move:

…it’s clear from conversations we have had with Chinese government officials that they find the redirect unacceptable—and that if we continue redirecting users our Internet Content Provider license will not be renewed (it’s up for renewal on June 30). Without an ICP license, we can’t operate a commercial website like Google.cn—so Google would effectively go dark in China.

Now it’s important to note that until this move, Google.cn traffic has been a “redirect,” meaning visitors to www.google.cn were sent automatically to www.google.com.hk en masse. Clicks in Google’s top bar to music and maps would go back to google.cn, but it was by default an HK site. That is likely what Drummond was referring to as being “unacceptable” to the PRC authorities.

Today, Google changed how this works in order to comply with the “letter” of what the authorities wanted, even if it wasn’t keeping in the spirit:

…instead of automatically redirecting all our users, we have started taking … them to a landing page on Google.cn that links to Google.com.hk—where users can conduct web search or continue to use Google.cn services like music and text translate, which we can provide locally without filtering. This approach ensures we stay true to our commitment not to censor our results on Google.cn and gives users access to all of our services from one page.

A number of folks have asked whether this is a backtrack by Google on their January announcement.

Not really.

It shows Google is interested in keeping their presence in China, especially when there is much potential profit in entertainment and tool-orientedinformation services (translation, mapping) that don’t run afoul of Google’s “Don’t be evil” mantra.

But it is not much of a change from their earlier stance, and all Google is willing to do is to put up an intermediate landing page as a facade. And when I say facade, it truly is one.

Google.cn facade


The front page of Google.cn may look like a normal search page, but it’s actually a large button. Once you click on any portion of the screen it brings you to the old redirected page at Google.com.hk.

It’s hardly going to make PRC authorities happy, even though Google.cn is no longer just a redirect, and does technically return a page from a PRC server to the web surfer.

In fact, it can be seen as the least amount Google could do to comply with ICP guidelines. It will be interesting to see if it gets renewed.

Grand Canyon Pay Phone

Curiously enough, in the last day more people have inquired about my using a pay phone from the Grand Canyon to do a public radio interview than about the fate of Wikipedia.


The background: I got a call from LA’s public radio station KCRW on Thursday asking if I could participate in discussion about Wikipedia’s pending changes feature. This was while I was on a five day getaway, and just a few hours before driving into the cell phone blackout void known as northern Arizona. Everything from Fredonia (near the Utah border) down to the North Rim of the Grand Canyon is pretty much a cell phone black hole for AT&T, and I suspect pretty much every carrier. Also, radio producers crave land lines for their reliability and general quality over mobiles.


Locals confirmed there was no telecom whatsoever (wired or wireless) between where I was at Jacob Lake (a small outpost/lodge) and the precious pay phones run by the National Park Service 44 miles away. I had to cover that distance in an hour, half of which I could go 70 mph, but the rest a curvy and hilly affair that featured deer and cow crossing warnings.



View Grand Canyon North in a larger map


Driving slightly on the edge of responsibility, I made that distance in roughly 50 minutes. We pulled into the parking lot of the Grand Lodge, grabbed any staff member I could find and asked if they had pay phones that could receive calls. They didn’t know, but pointed to a bank of phone booths.


It was 20 minutes to show time, and I didn’t know how I’d get on air.


AT&T, to their credit, had at the very least a weak circle of cell coverage around the lodge, but it would have been awful for radio broadcasting.


I went into the phone booth, noted the 928 area code number on the pay phone, dialed it from my cell phone and voila — it rang. I texted the number to the KCRW producer, and 15 minutes later, there was a ringback and I was on the radio show.


Doing KCRW To The Point interview


Phone booth, Grand Canyon North


It worked. And after a spirited discussion on Wikipedia, I took twenty paces and had this beautiful view from the lodge.


20 Paces Away, in Lodge


Another twenty paces, and I had this panorama.


20 More Paces away


As I told Warren Olney on the show: “Never underestimate the value of a landline,” especially in Northern Arizona.

Wikipedia Debate on KCRW

On Friday, I was on Los Angeles KCRW’s To The Point radio show talking about Wikipedia’s latest “Pending Changes” move and what it means for the encyclopedia’s future. Joining me were Julia Angwin of the WSJ, William Beutler who writes The Wikipedian blog, and Lee Siegel cultural critic.


The short story: pending changes for English Wikipedia is a modified version for a what has been known as “flagged revisions.” The latter is a technical feature where not all edits to Wikipedia show up immediately, and requires a more experienced user (autoconfirmed, administrator, or otherwise) to approve an edit before it is displayed to the “public” of casual, not-logged-in users. This has already been turned on for all of German Wikipedia for over a year now with considerable success on their side. However, de.wikipedia.org is also a different beast with much more stringent standards (dare I say, academic bent) for articles. While English Wikipedia has over 3 million articles, German has just over 1 million. As a collective, the German Wikipedians have decided not to include the reams of virtual pages dedicated to contemporary pop culture, borderline celebrity and the minutiae about science fiction characters you see in English Wikipedia. For the German speakers, flagged revisions works for them, as it has upped their quality to engage with governmental and academic institutions. The English Wikipedia does not have such a sterling reputation, though folks like Liam Wyatt, Wikipedian in Residence at the British Museum, are starting to change this.

English Wikipedians, being a more diverse and rancorous bunch, could not come to consensus on a big sweeping move like flagged revisions. Instead, a smaller two month trial was approved which will allow certain articles to be treated in the “flagged revisions” way. Originally called “flagged protection” and perhaps too confusing for outsiders, it was relabeled “pending changes.” In the trial period, no more than 2000 articles will be designated to use the feature, and the results will be evaluated.


In brief: my view is that the characterization of “pending changes” is relative. Julia Angwin, who I think is a great tech journalist, is of the opinion it represents an overall more closing-off of Wikipedia, and the move is an affirmation of a more conventional process that created traditional encyclopedias. On the other hand, folks like Jimmy Wales have regarded this as opening up — instead of having articles locked completely using full-protection, or to limit editing to existing registered and “aged” users by semi-protection, pending changes gives a way for anyone and everyone to participate, even if those edits are not completely viewable until later. Relative to full protection, it’s more open. Relative to the Wild West wiki way, it’s more closed. It will be interesting to watch this experiment in action, even if folks involved don’t know exactly how to measure success or failure.


In addition to talking about the new feature, there is a rather vigorous debate between Beutler and myself with Mr. Siegel.


You can listen to the show at KCRW’s site.

Twitter Updates for 2009-03-04

  • Retweet @Ross Jon Stewart Shakes His Fist at Twitter: http://bit.ly/OHmnD “Stalkr just grunt’d on my Twitter” #
  • SXSW book signing for “The Wikipedia Revolution”, Mar 16, 3:25pm, http://bit.ly/Wy5jw Hope to see you there #
  • Blog post: “What the Hashtag?” dictionary reminiscent of Ward Cunningham’s original wiki inspiration http://bit.ly/uIo96 #
  • Few, if any, Tweets about Sri Lankan cricket team shootings use hashtags. Hard to abbreviate, or hashtags a geek thing? #
  • Retweet @klustout Officials from Guangdong go on a Mideast junket that includes a stay at 7-star Burj http://tinyurl.com/acl6d4 #
  • Public service annc: RT @ajschokora Oasis in China ticket return info, English: http://tinyurl.com/cdqq9c ??: http://tinyurl.com/ahvx8w #
  • Is there any more ominous sign than American Society of Newspaper Editors convention cancelled? (First since 1945) http://bit.ly/Lq5qD #
  • Suggestion: ASNE should do Twitter summit like #journchat on future of newspapers, in lieu of face-to-face meeting http://bit.ly/Lq5qD #
  • Idea for a modern day WPA-style project: an oral (or video) history of newspaper newsrooms that seem to closing left and right #
  • Netizens and the news business are locked in a mutually destructive death spiral. Can anything arrest the decline? http://bit.ly/L2taO #
  • Wow: Amazon releases Kindle for iPhone (MacWorld): http://xrl.us/beh9jf #

Twitter Updates for 2009-03-03

  • RT @shanghaiist: World’s first Jackie Chan museum opening in Shanghai: http://tinyurl.com/alb3sp (And again, Hong Kong misses the boat) #
  • RT @niubi CCTV fire “bldg structurally toast” (can think of no better description; demolition is going to be daunting) #
  • CNBC: DJIA falls below 7000 points for first time since October 1997 (corrected) #
  • Strolling down memory lane: Books proclaiming Dow reaching 30k, 36k, 40k, 100k http://bit.ly/R76Aa #
  • Idea of the week: Draft a book proposal called “Dow 3,000″ and get it sold by April #
  • RT @acarvin All references to snow on Twitter within a 25 mile radius of DC: http://is.gd/lqZt #snowDC #
  • TechDirt: How Does Chinese Internet Censorship Affect Business? http://bit.ly/LH0bR #
  • WSJ: Freddie Mac CEO Will Resign http://bit.ly/2UgBy (Not sure what good this does now…) #
  • CNBC: AIG CEO Won’t Rule Out Needing Another Bailout http://bit.ly/vDFaW #
  • Quote of the day: “The best encryption in the world won’t help you if your passphrase sucks.” Jeff Nye http://bit.ly/4BIiJz #
  • Retweet @DanHarris “Why China Will Remain Stable” http://is.gd/lpMp #
  • RT @InternetLaw “Pentagon Media Strategy Document Decrypted Due to Weak Passphrase” http://tinyurl.com/cthq2c #
  • Interesting: “What the hashtag?!” a user-editable encyclopedia for hashtags found on Twitter http://wthashtag.com #
  • Pitch: “The Wikipedia Revolution: How a bunch of nobodies created the world’s greatest encyclopedia” (Mar 17) http://bit.ly/8wvv #journchat #
  • See @ahess247 BusinessWeek’s summary of startups presenting at DEMO http://is.gd/lrDp #
  • Cool spiffier looking version of TweetGrid functionality: http://monitter.com #
  • Twitter Counter: Top 100 Tweeters in Beijing http://bit.ly/zcQ1V Mix of locals and expats, pretty flat distribution #

Twitter Updates for 2009-03-01

  • RT @jdiercks heard from slicehost that they’re replacing bad ram in a bunch of servers — glad they’re being proactive http://ping.fm/I8rAH #
  • Washington Post ombudsman agrees with netroots: George Will “sea ice” column distorts the facts http://bit.ly/16QzWq #
  • NPR: “CIA And Pentagon Wonder: Could Mexico Implode?” Implications too dramatic to imagine in TX/AZ/CA border regions http://bit.ly/ZjW2Z #
  • “Translating “The Economist” Behind China’s Great Firewall” http://bit.ly/FMrW9 Crowdsourcing xlation, w/blessing of publisher #
  • “Wikipedia in Theory” http://bit.ly/19x4nZ Sage Ross good dissection of Wikipedia “Epistemic cultures” critique #
  • Who needs Hay-on-Wye? “Thousands in scramble for free books after Amazon supplier abandons warehouse” http://bit.ly/95G0Q #
  • Marine One (US Presidential helicopter) blueprints and avionics leaked through P2P network http://bit.ly/J3pen (Not surprised…) #

Twitter Updates for 2009-02-27

  • Cool announcement: Public Data Sets on Amazon Web Services http://bit.ly/GYkRq includes Wikipedia, Freebase, Genbank, others #
  • Waiting for #slicehost to fix double hardware failure. Surprising lapse/FAIL on otherwise impressive service #
  • Sad: Rocky Mountain News publishes last edition Friday. US newspaper industry in alarming disarray #
  • With all these newspaper shutdowns, have to wonder what happens to their news archives #
  • RT @Web2AsiaRumor: MySpace to Close China Doors http://snipr.com/cq5o1 #
  • Consumer Reports: 10 best cars. http://bit.ly/S4MFp Only Detroit car is Chevy Avalanche pickup which gets 20hway/14city #

Twitter Updates for 2009-02-26

  • RT @digitalchina China Unicom + Apple agreement: watch the rise of the iphone in China: http://ping.fm/vrmH7 (Wow, huge move) #
  • One dead, 20 injured in Turkish Airlines plane crash in Amsterdam http://bit.ly/8qOZa #
  • FWIW, I flew Turkish Airlines from Asia and thought they were modern and safe. OTOH, I’ve been flying PRC-based airlines, so… #
  • RT @mikebutcher: Weird to be following @nipp as he tweets live from the Amsterdam plane crash. Like being there. #
  • Dreamhost having major bad hair day: DNS slowness/lookup failures http://tinyurl.com/dgfr3z #
  • Glad I spent the time to move my sites/blog to Slicehost; Dreamhost having major pains #
  • RT @rmack The Berkman Center launches Herdict Web: Help track censorship around the world:http://is.gd/kOJl #
  • Working on audio book of Wikipedia Revolution. How to pronounce names of Wikipedians is an art, not a science http://bit.ly/6Tkp8 #
  • “Twitter first to publish dramatic crash pictures” http://bit.ly/cJk4E CNN says “stole a march on traditional media” #
  • Each SXSW panel will have a unique Meebo Room where attendees can add their thoughts live and in real time http://bit.ly/eBBCu #
  • With all the heavy scripting sites one loads in a browser: Gmail, Meebo, Facebook, et al. No wonder Firefox dies slow death every 24 hours #

Twitter Updates for 2009-02-25

  • Going to SXSW Shanghai event: http://sxswshanghai.eventbrite.com/ attendees get two months of Boingo Wifi, nice! #
  • Ouch: DetNews outs Obama economic team driving foreign autos. http://bit.ly/r9LTl Geithner:Acura, Orszag:Honda. Obama? Ford #
  • Hopeful thought of the day: Wikipedia created/blossomed during recession of 2001; lots of available labor in post dot-com bust #
  • More people should know about Sandboxie. Use it as wrapper when running Chrome, testing untrusted apps http://bit.ly/Ro4z #
  • Latest political rumor: “Former Wash. Gov. Gary Locke Likely To Commerce” http://bit.ly/zAODT #
  • Just got first ten hardcopies of Wikipedia Revolution book shipped to me in China http://bit.ly/6Tkp8 #
  • Commentary by @sreenet “India is too great a country to have its reputation made or broken by a single movie” http://bit.ly/ofity #
  • APM Marketplace: Should “[Ii]nternet” be capitalized? http://bit.ly/kE1Qe BBC, Wired say no; Assoc Press says yes. Me: yes #
  • Interesting to see a president say, “How are you, man?” with soul while coming down the aisle #nSOTU #
  • Dick “I haven’t seen Obama’s birth certificate” Shelbyshakes President’s hand, and tries to tell something to him #nSOTU Guesses? #
  • Nice inspirational “we will emerge stronger than before” from Obama. Let’s just hope for getting back to par… #
  • #nSOTU That Republican non-standing section is looking pretty small #
  • Have to imagine avg American’s confusion on “energy” and “China” comment, and they zoom in on Energy sec. Stephen Wu #nSOTU #
  • Wonder if Obama will announce his entire cabinet and econ. team will dump their foreign autos, and buy American only #nSOTU #
  • Re: parenting, someone just sent me “Jenna and Tonic” by instant message http://bit.ly/lP0bO #nSOTU #
  • RT @pblackshaw: Streaming on Whitehouse.gov is 2-3 seconds ahead of TV networks – a TWITTER ADVANTAGE! http://www.whitehouse.gov/live/ #
  • Sad we have to say what should never have to be clarified “..we do not torture.” #nSOTU #
  • Just saw Obama hug Lieberman on way out of chamber #nSOTU #
  • RT @anamariecox: I hope Bobby Jindal’s underwear is made of steel because I bet he is shitting bricks. (LOL) #
  • Watching reactions from Shields and Brooks on PBS Newshour http://bit.ly/9oj7T #nSOTU #
  • Bobby Jindal #jindal Ouch, used car salesman speaking style a bit offputting #
  • RT @orthopod: Jindal sounds like he’s reading a picture-book to a young child #
  • #jindal Does his “fiscal discipline, smaller govt, personal responsibility” have any resonance in this day/age? #
  • #jindal David Brooks on Jindal’s speech: Did “not so well…” “Disaster for the Rep. party” #
  • Gut feeling re CNN/Facebook partnership and instant polling: flawed, as you’ve got a demographic profile you don’t really understand #
  • Lost in the shuffle: Senator Durbin calls on Burris to resign. Does that mean we should stick a fork in him? http://bit.ly/nihUh #
  • #jindal Get ready folks, we’re starting to see a Bobby Jindal v Kenneth from 30 Rock meme getting full steam http://bit.ly/130yhf #
  • Apple would do itself a favor by not assuming average consumers know what “Leopard” and “Tiger” are. Even I get them mixed up #
  • Good to see economist Joe Stiglitz on CNN doing post-mortem analysis, even if he has to share stage with Ed Rollins #
  • RT @jayrosen_nyu: Expense to print /truck the Chronicle is 2x the $7.75 to subscribe wkly http://is.gd/kJA1 What does that tell you? #
  • Reluctant to install Security Update 2009-1 to get to use Safari 4, given reports of CPAN getting munged afterwards. May just bite bullet #