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	<link>http://www.andrewlih.com/blog/2008/07/15/alexandria-where-art-thou/</link>
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		<title>by: alinkmymn</title>
		<link>http://www.andrewlih.com/blog/2008/07/15/alexandria-where-art-thou/#comment-254151</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>hell yea ! you are right ;)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hell yea ! you are right <img src='http://www.andrewlih.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
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		<title>by: alinkmymn</title>
		<link>http://www.andrewlih.com/blog/2008/07/15/alexandria-where-art-thou/#comment-254148</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.andrewlih.com/blog/2008/07/15/alexandria-where-art-thou/#comment-254148</guid>
					<description>hell yea ! you are right ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hell yea ! you are right <img src='http://www.andrewlih.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>by: James Hare</title>
		<link>http://www.andrewlih.com/blog/2008/07/15/alexandria-where-art-thou/#comment-207853</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 21:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.andrewlih.com/blog/2008/07/15/alexandria-where-art-thou/#comment-207853</guid>
					<description>&lt;em&gt;Excuse me&lt;/em&gt;, Herr Möller! Not everyone can fit around the Wikimedia Foundation's plans. When planning a conference, you have to anticipate the most screwed up of scenarios, and that involves people arriving at different times. One charter bus round trip for everyone, and that's it?

Give me a damn break. Don't give a random African villager a piece of bread and say you're a humanitarian. If you're going to hold these things in intentionally far-off locations, at least make it convenient for the foreigners (which will constitute 99% of the attendees).

I call shenanigans. The Wikimania location committee should be policed for the ineptitude until they reform.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Excuse me</em>, Herr Möller! Not everyone can fit around the Wikimedia Foundation&#8217;s plans. When planning a conference, you have to anticipate the most screwed up of scenarios, and that involves people arriving at different times. One charter bus round trip for everyone, and that&#8217;s it?</p>
<p>Give me a damn break. Don&#8217;t give a random African villager a piece of bread and say you&#8217;re a humanitarian. If you&#8217;re going to hold these things in intentionally far-off locations, at least make it convenient for the foreigners (which will constitute 99% of the attendees).</p>
<p>I call shenanigans. The Wikimania location committee should be policed for the ineptitude until they reform.
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		<title>by: Majorly</title>
		<link>http://www.andrewlih.com/blog/2008/07/15/alexandria-where-art-thou/#comment-207720</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Jul 2008 17:25:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.andrewlih.com/blog/2008/07/15/alexandria-where-art-thou/#comment-207720</guid>
					<description>Wow. That so echoes the exact experience I had at Cairo Airport. Considering I was going to take the free bus, I still had a great few hours struggling to find it (it was a few hours late). I had the same problems with the pesky taxi drivers. I wrote a longer rant on this on the mailing list here: http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimania-l/2008-July/001185.html

I still struggle to understand how Egypt was chosen. I'm baffled. I hope for somewhere more civilised in 2010.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. That so echoes the exact experience I had at Cairo Airport. Considering I was going to take the free bus, I still had a great few hours struggling to find it (it was a few hours late). I had the same problems with the pesky taxi drivers. I wrote a longer rant on this on the mailing list here: <a href='http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimania-l/2008-July/001185.html' rel='nofollow'>http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikimania-l/2008-July/001185.html</a></p>
<p>I still struggle to understand how Egypt was chosen. I&#8217;m baffled. I hope for somewhere more civilised in 2010.
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		<title>by: tc</title>
		<link>http://www.andrewlih.com/blog/2008/07/15/alexandria-where-art-thou/#comment-201505</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.andrewlih.com/blog/2008/07/15/alexandria-where-art-thou/#comment-201505</guid>
					<description>My, my Anthony.  Have you become the Foundation's newest attack dog?  Have you taken over GerardM's role?  Congratulations!  Just remember, you must foam at the mouth each time you attack anybody that would dare speak ill of the Foundation and whatever stupid, idiotic, immoral or other questionable antic they undertake.  Again, congratulations on your new job!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My, my Anthony.  Have you become the Foundation&#8217;s newest attack dog?  Have you taken over GerardM&#8217;s role?  Congratulations!  Just remember, you must foam at the mouth each time you attack anybody that would dare speak ill of the Foundation and whatever stupid, idiotic, immoral or other questionable antic they undertake.  Again, congratulations on your new job!
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		<title>by: Anthony</title>
		<link>http://www.andrewlih.com/blog/2008/07/15/alexandria-where-art-thou/#comment-200948</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 16:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.andrewlih.com/blog/2008/07/15/alexandria-where-art-thou/#comment-200948</guid>
					<description>So transportation in Egypt sucks, Erik's a racist, the WMF is hands-off, and Andrew doesn't plan his trips very well.  One of those four things is new information to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So transportation in Egypt sucks, Erik&#8217;s a racist, the WMF is hands-off, and Andrew doesn&#8217;t plan his trips very well.  One of those four things is new information to me.
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		<title>by: Gomi</title>
		<link>http://www.andrewlih.com/blog/2008/07/15/alexandria-where-art-thou/#comment-198731</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jul 2008 06:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.andrewlih.com/blog/2008/07/15/alexandria-where-art-thou/#comment-198731</guid>
					<description>Isn't this just like everything else about Wikipedia ... the triumph of a cool but shallow idea over any modicum of practicality?

The BIG IDEA, of course -- &quot;Let's have a conference at the site of a Great Library!  That would be cool!&quot;  Never mind that it is in, as Erik puts is &quot;a developing country in the Arab world&quot; (read: &quot;everything there hates us, except to the extent they can take our money, being gay or female is more-or-less against the law, and every few years they decide to shoot a bunch of foreigners&quot;).

Utterly forgotten in this naive rush to the cool idea is the almost entire lack of an indigenous base of Wikipedia supporters (meaning *everyone* needs to travel a great distance to attend), and the extreme logistical details (and costs!) of running a conference is such a location.

One thing you've gotta grant -- they're consistent!  (Consistently bone-headed.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t this just like everything else about Wikipedia &#8230; the triumph of a cool but shallow idea over any modicum of practicality?</p>
<p>The BIG IDEA, of course &#8212; &#8220;Let&#8217;s have a conference at the site of a Great Library!  That would be cool!&#8221;  Never mind that it is in, as Erik puts is &#8220;a developing country in the Arab world&#8221; (read: &#8220;everything there hates us, except to the extent they can take our money, being gay or female is more-or-less against the law, and every few years they decide to shoot a bunch of foreigners&#8221;).</p>
<p>Utterly forgotten in this naive rush to the cool idea is the almost entire lack of an indigenous base of Wikipedia supporters (meaning *everyone* needs to travel a great distance to attend), and the extreme logistical details (and costs!) of running a conference is such a location.</p>
<p>One thing you&#8217;ve gotta grant &#8212; they&#8217;re consistent!  (Consistently bone-headed.)
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		<title>by: tc</title>
		<link>http://www.andrewlih.com/blog/2008/07/15/alexandria-where-art-thou/#comment-198547</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 21:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.andrewlih.com/blog/2008/07/15/alexandria-where-art-thou/#comment-198547</guid>
					<description>Actually MS, I laughed out loud at Andrew's post, it reminded me of many of my travels around the world.  I took the entire post as being funny and can't believe that anybody blasted him from poking fun at the situation.  LIGHTEN UP PEOPLE ... THIS IS FUNNY!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually MS, I laughed out loud at Andrew&#8217;s post, it reminded me of many of my travels around the world.  I took the entire post as being funny and can&#8217;t believe that anybody blasted him from poking fun at the situation.  LIGHTEN UP PEOPLE &#8230; THIS IS FUNNY!
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		<title>by: MS</title>
		<link>http://www.andrewlih.com/blog/2008/07/15/alexandria-where-art-thou/#comment-198523</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:39:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.andrewlih.com/blog/2008/07/15/alexandria-where-art-thou/#comment-198523</guid>
					<description>This is an utterly ridiculous post. If you think that 75 USD is overpriced for a two-and-a-half hour cab ride, you haven't been reading the papers. Next time, try reading up on a city before you land there like the rest of us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is an utterly ridiculous post. If you think that 75 USD is overpriced for a two-and-a-half hour cab ride, you haven&#8217;t been reading the papers. Next time, try reading up on a city before you land there like the rest of us.
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		<title>by: Gregory Kohs</title>
		<link>http://www.andrewlih.com/blog/2008/07/15/alexandria-where-art-thou/#comment-198514</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jul 2008 20:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.andrewlih.com/blog/2008/07/15/alexandria-where-art-thou/#comment-198514</guid>
					<description>I wonder how Jimbo will get himself to Alexandria? Considering his $100,000-per-engagement speaker's fee, perhaps he actually can arrange for the &quot;golden carriage&quot; that Erik Möller speaks of.  I'm surprised Erik has taken the time and effort to write this screed against you, Andrew -- I'd have thought he'd be keeping a lower profile, what with the recent illumination of his past writings supporting pro-pedophilia positions.

Tsk, tsk.  Let's face it: Alexandria is a bone-headed Wikimania site selection, for an organization that gets 90% of its revenue from the Euro-American front, and the majority of whose project participants are native English speakers.  And considering the recent flap about the English Wikipedia insisting on publishing images of the Muslim prophet, I hope your time at this Wikimania isn't punctuated by anything more &quot;explosive&quot; than your treatment by Erik.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how Jimbo will get himself to Alexandria? Considering his $100,000-per-engagement speaker&#8217;s fee, perhaps he actually can arrange for the &#8220;golden carriage&#8221; that Erik Möller speaks of.  I&#8217;m surprised Erik has taken the time and effort to write this screed against you, Andrew &#8212; I&#8217;d have thought he&#8217;d be keeping a lower profile, what with the recent illumination of his past writings supporting pro-pedophilia positions.</p>
<p>Tsk, tsk.  Let&#8217;s face it: Alexandria is a bone-headed Wikimania site selection, for an organization that gets 90% of its revenue from the Euro-American front, and the majority of whose project participants are native English speakers.  And considering the recent flap about the English Wikipedia insisting on publishing images of the Muslim prophet, I hope your time at this Wikimania isn&#8217;t punctuated by anything more &#8220;explosive&#8221; than your treatment by Erik.
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