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		<title>by: 中文wikipedia解封后的变化 &#124; 半亩塘闲话</title>
		<link>http://www.andrewlih.com/blog/2006/11/15/why-did-china-finally-unblock-wikipedia/#comment-296874</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 16:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] 中文wikipedia10月10日解封之后，终于重现大陆江湖。Andrew Lih在10月13日经过一些数据分析发现，这几天中文版的注册用户增长速度已经达到了所有语言wikipedia的第二名，仅次于英文版（中文版条目数位居第12名），而条目增长比以前多了75%。由此，《华尔街日报》特别撰文，喜称“维基百科中文网站人气飙升”。Andrew Lih同时还提出了对“中国为何解封wikipedia”地分析。 [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] 中文wikipedia10月10日解封之后，终于重现大陆江湖。Andrew Lih在10月13日经过一些数据分析发现，这几天中文版的注册用户增长速度已经达到了所有语言wikipedia的第二名，仅次于英文版（中文版条目数位居第12名），而条目增长比以前多了75%。由此，《华尔街日报》特别撰文，喜称“维基百科中文网站人气飙升”。Andrew Lih同时还提出了对“中国为何解封wikipedia”地分析。 [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: 河蟹社会</title>
		<link>http://www.andrewlih.com/blog/2006/11/15/why-did-china-finally-unblock-wikipedia/#comment-291605</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 11:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>很好很强大,很好很和谐!</description>
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		<title>by: 康康的生活－康国平博客 &#187; Blog Archive &#187; 权</title>
		<link>http://www.andrewlih.com/blog/2006/11/15/why-did-china-finally-unblock-wikipedia/#comment-272527</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 08:02:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] 互联网中读和写的一个关系问题在中国互联网上，我们常说读不到实际的东西。这话可能比较绝对，一些真东西还是有的，比如写博客的人就不少。但中国互联网上，最大的问题是，写不了什么真实的东西。这是存在的。比如wikipedia的问题，比如一些国外的BSP的无法访问等。以前好像集中在读read上面，因为不让你看到，一切都好了。现在的问题是，读有时候还是可以小范围低限度地容许的，写write是万万不可以的。比如我在一个叫狐狸vox的网站上写博客，就是觉得好玩，我写的时候我就知道，这样的网站，大概摆脱不了被封的厄运。但结果是这个厄运降临得太快，我们还来不及回味，在VOX上写玩艺是一个什么滋味。现在国外的一些人看中国繁荣的互联网就觉得是一个怪胎，除了流氓，就是限制，除了限制，就是垃圾。一片歌舞升平，一群花枝招展的女人在网上，似乎中文互联网是最色情的网了。色情没人管，因为色情是read，没多少人愿意去write。我看到一个文章，我才发现，读read和写write的关系问题，才是中文互联网能否真正自由发展的首要问题。China wants to read it, the world wants China to write to it.中国想要去读它，而世界希望中国在上面写。这个文章中一句话是说wikipedia的，实际上可放在任何场合，而且在互联网之外也适用。比如胡戈搞的《鸟笼山剿匪记》的命运，一样涉及到write的问题。恭喜维基百科中文词条突破10万。这是很多人努力的结果啊。恭喜下先。让你随便写？有这好事情么！ kangkang 1116200611月18日更新：不好意思，中文维基和wikipedia还是访问不了，原因见。看来我得重新买块硬盘，把最新的几个CD版本的百科全书装在机器上来看了。关于wiki，我看到了一个好玩的评论Why did China finally unblock Wikipedia?，好玩到死。     记者问：……此外，去年10月以来一直被封杀的维基百科中文网站上周得以解禁，你对此有何评论？发言人答：我不清楚你提到的具体网站情况。中国政府积极支持和促进互联网的发展。截止2005年，中国上网用户已超过1.23亿人，中国网站数量达78.8万个。中国已成为世界第二大互联网国家。我们依法对互联网进行管理，这也是世界各国通行的做法。  Filed in 未分类   &amp;#171; 抱 瑞 &amp;#187; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] 互联网中读和写的一个关系问题在中国互联网上，我们常说读不到实际的东西。这话可能比较绝对，一些真东西还是有的，比如写博客的人就不少。但中国互联网上，最大的问题是，写不了什么真实的东西。这是存在的。比如wikipedia的问题，比如一些国外的BSP的无法访问等。以前好像集中在读read上面，因为不让你看到，一切都好了。现在的问题是，读有时候还是可以小范围低限度地容许的，写write是万万不可以的。比如我在一个叫狐狸vox的网站上写博客，就是觉得好玩，我写的时候我就知道，这样的网站，大概摆脱不了被封的厄运。但结果是这个厄运降临得太快，我们还来不及回味，在VOX上写玩艺是一个什么滋味。现在国外的一些人看中国繁荣的互联网就觉得是一个怪胎，除了流氓，就是限制，除了限制，就是垃圾。一片歌舞升平，一群花枝招展的女人在网上，似乎中文互联网是最色情的网了。色情没人管，因为色情是read，没多少人愿意去write。我看到一个文章，我才发现，读read和写write的关系问题，才是中文互联网能否真正自由发展的首要问题。China wants to read it, the world wants China to write to it.中国想要去读它，而世界希望中国在上面写。这个文章中一句话是说wikipedia的，实际上可放在任何场合，而且在互联网之外也适用。比如胡戈搞的《鸟笼山剿匪记》的命运，一样涉及到write的问题。恭喜维基百科中文词条突破10万。这是很多人努力的结果啊。恭喜下先。让你随便写？有这好事情么！ kangkang 1116200611月18日更新：不好意思，中文维基和wikipedia还是访问不了，原因见。看来我得重新买块硬盘，把最新的几个CD版本的百科全书装在机器上来看了。关于wiki，我看到了一个好玩的评论Why did China finally unblock Wikipedia?，好玩到死。     记者问：……此外，去年10月以来一直被封杀的维基百科中文网站上周得以解禁，你对此有何评论？发言人答：我不清楚你提到的具体网站情况。中国政府积极支持和促进互联网的发展。截止2005年，中国上网用户已超过1.23亿人，中国网站数量达78.8万个。中国已成为世界第二大互联网国家。我们依法对互联网进行管理，这也是世界各国通行的做法。  Filed in 未分类   &laquo; 抱 瑞 &raquo; [&#8230;]
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		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 00:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: Alex Knife</title>
		<link>http://www.andrewlih.com/blog/2006/11/15/why-did-china-finally-unblock-wikipedia/#comment-69305</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Sep 2007 01:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: China Blog by Chinaorbit.com</title>
		<link>http://www.andrewlih.com/blog/2006/11/15/why-did-china-finally-unblock-wikipedia/#comment-49094</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jun 2007 09:50:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>&lt;strong&gt;Wikipedia no longer censored in China?...&lt;/strong&gt;

Some good news for Wikipedia Fans in China. The popular online encyclopaedia seems to be available at least in Beijing, I don&amp;#8217;t know about other parts in China.
Wikipedia has been censored in China since October 2005 (with a short interrupted in ...</description>
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<p>Some good news for Wikipedia Fans in China. The popular online encyclopaedia seems to be available at least in Beijing, I don&#8217;t know about other parts in China.<br />
Wikipedia has been censored in China since October 2005 (with a short interrupted in &#8230;
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		<title>by: unblock myspace</title>
		<link>http://www.andrewlih.com/blog/2006/11/15/why-did-china-finally-unblock-wikipedia/#comment-45937</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2007 18:16:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I think it was unblocked because someone decided that they could win revert wars on controversial topics ..</description>
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		<title>by: Joyce Ricks</title>
		<link>http://www.andrewlih.com/blog/2006/11/15/why-did-china-finally-unblock-wikipedia/#comment-15469</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Feb 2007 16:17:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: who are the Chinese wikipedia administrators?</title>
		<link>http://www.andrewlih.com/blog/2006/11/15/why-did-china-finally-unblock-wikipedia/#comment-8612</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jan 2007 00:12:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.andrewlih.com/blog/2006/11/15/why-did-china-finally-unblock-wikipedia/#comment-8612</guid>
					<description>It is a known fact that China blocked its people's access to wikipedia. however, i checked the chinese page, they have total of 29 moderators that are in China! 6 from beijing, 6 from guangzhou, 6 from shanghai, etc. There are more moderators from China than from any other parts of the world. however, if the chinese are blocked from getting on here, how can those Chinese moderators still have time and resources to moderate the chinese wikipedia? isn't that odd?

you may have heard about [[Shi Tao]], the chinese government put him in jail for 10 years because the government was able to find his location thru a single IP address which was reported by yahoo. those 29 moderators' are listed publicly on the chinese page. So it is quite obvious that the chinese government must have those 29 mainland chinese moderators' personal informaiton. I highly suspect that most of the chinese mainland moderators are spies sent by the Chinese communists. It is a banned web site, what kind of people are willing to edit a web site that is banned by his or her own government especially in china?!

I can probably safely say that there are more people using the chinese version from Hong Kong and Taiwan than people from [[mainland China]]. however, [[Hongkong]] only has 13, [[Taiwan]] has 17. isn't that odd? further, during my time on that site, as far as I know, no moderator from hong kong banned or deleted my contributions, and there are 13 of them. if I really did something wrong, shouldn't they also be able to ban or delete? and who can gurantee that those moderators who are listed under other country names are not really from mainland china?

Another thing, it is forbidden to gather without government permit in China. however, that chinese site recently even had two meetings in capital - [[Beijing]] and in city of guangzhou. there are constant reports about police harassing and spying on people who secretly gathered in churches which are not approved by the government, etc. so there is no way that the government doesn't spy on those wikipedia meetings. It is just shocking to see those moderators so &quot;bravely&quot; advertising on the public page. and when I posted a question about my doubt, it was immediatly deleted as usual. those comment pages were also put into protection.

i am not insance or crazy. It is also a known fact that china has spies in taiwan. it seems to me that the moderator from taiwan jasonzhoucn is also very &quot;communistly&quot; suspicious. one time, i added to only two extra links to an article of the chinese golden shield project, he immediatly deleted them without a reason. he also deleted the extra information that i have added for some of the articles.

and the same chinese administrators are now writing the article about &quot;Chinese wikipedia&quot; on the English version site. so how realiable is the wikipedia? now you know.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a known fact that China blocked its people&#8217;s access to wikipedia. however, i checked the chinese page, they have total of 29 moderators that are in China! 6 from beijing, 6 from guangzhou, 6 from shanghai, etc. There are more moderators from China than from any other parts of the world. however, if the chinese are blocked from getting on here, how can those Chinese moderators still have time and resources to moderate the chinese wikipedia? isn&#8217;t that odd?</p>
<p>you may have heard about [[Shi Tao]], the chinese government put him in jail for 10 years because the government was able to find his location thru a single IP address which was reported by yahoo. those 29 moderators&#8217; are listed publicly on the chinese page. So it is quite obvious that the chinese government must have those 29 mainland chinese moderators&#8217; personal informaiton. I highly suspect that most of the chinese mainland moderators are spies sent by the Chinese communists. It is a banned web site, what kind of people are willing to edit a web site that is banned by his or her own government especially in china?!</p>
<p>I can probably safely say that there are more people using the chinese version from Hong Kong and Taiwan than people from [[mainland China]]. however, [[Hongkong]] only has 13, [[Taiwan]] has 17. isn&#8217;t that odd? further, during my time on that site, as far as I know, no moderator from hong kong banned or deleted my contributions, and there are 13 of them. if I really did something wrong, shouldn&#8217;t they also be able to ban or delete? and who can gurantee that those moderators who are listed under other country names are not really from mainland china?</p>
<p>Another thing, it is forbidden to gather without government permit in China. however, that chinese site recently even had two meetings in capital - [[Beijing]] and in city of guangzhou. there are constant reports about police harassing and spying on people who secretly gathered in churches which are not approved by the government, etc. so there is no way that the government doesn&#8217;t spy on those wikipedia meetings. It is just shocking to see those moderators so &#8220;bravely&#8221; advertising on the public page. and when I posted a question about my doubt, it was immediatly deleted as usual. those comment pages were also put into protection.</p>
<p>i am not insance or crazy. It is also a known fact that china has spies in taiwan. it seems to me that the moderator from taiwan jasonzhoucn is also very &#8220;communistly&#8221; suspicious. one time, i added to only two extra links to an article of the chinese golden shield project, he immediatly deleted them without a reason. he also deleted the extra information that i have added for some of the articles.</p>
<p>and the same chinese administrators are now writing the article about &#8220;Chinese wikipedia&#8221; on the English version site. so how realiable is the wikipedia? now you know.
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		<title>by: Vox Publica &#187; Ytring.cn</title>
		<link>http://www.andrewlih.com/blog/2006/11/15/why-did-china-finally-unblock-wikipedia/#comment-7460</link>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Dec 2006 14:31:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] Andrew Lih, mangeårig forsker i nye medier og journalistikk ved Columbia-universitetet i New York og universitetet i Hong Kong, skrev på sin blogg at myndighetene har innsett at Wikipedia har en grunnleggende nøytral holdning – også til spørsmål kinesiske myndigheter betrakter som sensitive. ”Jeg tror konsensus blant kinesiske myndigheter nå er at fordelene ved Wikipedia langt overgår ulempene, og at dette signaliserer deres gryende forståelse av den framvoksende les/skriv-weben som noe gagnlig”, skrev Lih. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Andrew Lih, mangeårig forsker i nye medier og journalistikk ved Columbia-universitetet i New York og universitetet i Hong Kong, skrev på sin blogg at myndighetene har innsett at Wikipedia har en grunnleggende nøytral holdning – også til spørsmål kinesiske myndigheter betrakter som sensitive. ”Jeg tror konsensus blant kinesiske myndigheter nå er at fordelene ved Wikipedia langt overgår ulempene, og at dette signaliserer deres gryende forståelse av den framvoksende les/skriv-weben som noe gagnlig”, skrev Lih. [&#8230;]
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